Or, to make it more personal and real: I’ll quote GK Chesterton’s insert to your question posed by a British newspaper to the readers in general, “what is wrong with the world?“ His answer, “ I am.“
At 72, this morning, I don’t feel much more needs to be said.
Exactly! There is not one action we take that is not tainted by sin. This is what is so hard for many to acknowledge, we just want to see ourselves as better than we are. We want to point out how we are better than others, but on a linear scale with Jesus at one end the line is blank until opposite end. And while we find ourselves slightly less bad than Hitler, on that scale it is virtually indistinguishable!
I like the Chesterton line from when I first heard about his letter! Even before I had any understanding of God I had learned hay much about man from my clinical work.
What about torturing babies for scientific research, prestige, mortgage payments, or just sheer arrogance and lack of a questioning attitude. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the new band, Fauci and the Pediatricians. They have been the most dangerous band since the early 80s.
As regards the "Hiding clinicial trial data about a gene therapy injection masquerading as a ‘vaccine’ for 75 YEARS is morally wrong.", this is true.
Except that all vaccines are poison, all that ever were and we were deceived by Satan and his cronies into thinking that poisoning ourselves would be good for our health. Pure insanity.
I would say no, we don't have free will, not in terms of what is called 'libertarian free will.' We have free moral agency, we make decisions as moral actors, but the "could have done otherwise" quality is lacking. We make decisions consistent with our nature.
As an example,you offer me the choice of ice cream or brussel sprouts. In one sense inam free to choose, except I will NEVER choose the brussel sprouts as that would be contrary to my nature.
Theologically I am stand in the classic Reformed tradition of belief, with a high view of the sovereignty of God and of the depravity of man. You speak of the mystery of human responsibility & God's sovereignty, and when asked such questions I suggest that I would first like an explanation of the Incarnation and of the Trinity ;)
Thanks for pitching in, Roger. These sorts of discussions can be read by others & their minds drawn into reflection. That is one of the most beautiful aspects of the internet!
Both 1 trinitaria no God & the free will sovereignty of God are paradoxes/ mysteries--Bible teaches both & understanding the Bible is inerrant so you either accept the mystery is beyond human understanding or you deny the truth of some part of Scripture.
You misunderstand. I am pointing to these mysteries. But from a philosophic perspective Reformed theology makes it clear we do not have libertarian free will. This may sound like splitting hairs, I suppose that what I get for spending a few years studying that in grad school at 50!
And in a sense, man does not have completely free will, as since the Fall, perfect obedience is not an option, though humans do have an infinitely of sinful (to a greater or lesser degree) choices they are free to select.
To answer the question, Jack: yes. Genesis, Adam, Eve, or Eve, Adam.; God, tree serpent, that is the devil; anybody’s lived experience if they are honest, the rest of the Bible, especially Romans, all of human history. Q. E. D.
If that isn’t sufficient, you are fooling yourself.
Or, to make it more personal and real: I’ll quote GK Chesterton’s insert to your question posed by a British newspaper to the readers in general, “what is wrong with the world?“ His answer, “ I am.“
At 72, this morning, I don’t feel much more needs to be said.
Starts with taking personal responsibility for oneself, then one’s family, then helping one’s community etc.
Even the best of us are desperately wicked at our core & our best efforts fall short &/or are self serving,often in ways that we are unaware of.
Exactly! There is not one action we take that is not tainted by sin. This is what is so hard for many to acknowledge, we just want to see ourselves as better than we are. We want to point out how we are better than others, but on a linear scale with Jesus at one end the line is blank until opposite end. And while we find ourselves slightly less bad than Hitler, on that scale it is virtually indistinguishable!
I like the Chesterton line from when I first heard about his letter! Even before I had any understanding of God I had learned hay much about man from my clinical work.
Be blessed, my brother
What about torturing babies for scientific research, prestige, mortgage payments, or just sheer arrogance and lack of a questioning attitude. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the new band, Fauci and the Pediatricians. They have been the most dangerous band since the early 80s.
Hello from the UK
Many thanks for your post. As regards truth you might be interested in this.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/t-is-for-truth/
As regards the "Hiding clinicial trial data about a gene therapy injection masquerading as a ‘vaccine’ for 75 YEARS is morally wrong.", this is true.
Except that all vaccines are poison, all that ever were and we were deceived by Satan and his cronies into thinking that poisoning ourselves would be good for our health. Pure insanity.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and
“consensus does not produce moral truth.” 👏🏻👏🏻
Oh, I left out the Apple. Sorry.
People’s freewill and choices.
Do people have free will or is God sovereign? The answer is yes.
I would say no, we don't have free will, not in terms of what is called 'libertarian free will.' We have free moral agency, we make decisions as moral actors, but the "could have done otherwise" quality is lacking. We make decisions consistent with our nature.
As an example,you offer me the choice of ice cream or brussel sprouts. In one sense inam free to choose, except I will NEVER choose the brussel sprouts as that would be contrary to my nature.
Theologically I am stand in the classic Reformed tradition of belief, with a high view of the sovereignty of God and of the depravity of man. You speak of the mystery of human responsibility & God's sovereignty, and when asked such questions I suggest that I would first like an explanation of the Incarnation and of the Trinity ;)
Thanks for pitching in, Roger. These sorts of discussions can be read by others & their minds drawn into reflection. That is one of the most beautiful aspects of the internet!
Both 1 trinitaria no God & the free will sovereignty of God are paradoxes/ mysteries--Bible teaches both & understanding the Bible is inerrant so you either accept the mystery is beyond human understanding or you deny the truth of some part of Scripture.
You misunderstand. I am pointing to these mysteries. But from a philosophic perspective Reformed theology makes it clear we do not have libertarian free will. This may sound like splitting hairs, I suppose that what I get for spending a few years studying that in grad school at 50!
Oh, & the incarnation is also a mystery.
And in a sense, man does not have completely free will, as since the Fall, perfect obedience is not an option, though humans do have an infinitely of sinful (to a greater or lesser degree) choices they are free to select.
That’s my point about a lack of free will
To answer the question, Jack: yes. Genesis, Adam, Eve, or Eve, Adam.; God, tree serpent, that is the devil; anybody’s lived experience if they are honest, the rest of the Bible, especially Romans, all of human history. Q. E. D.
If that isn’t sufficient, you are fooling yourself.